Barcode Symbology Derivable

[Jimkpa]

In Classification and Identification section, what does Is Barcode Symbology Derivable mean? I never know whether to use True/False or blank?

Thank you.

[credcat7]

the IM dictonary provides :A boolean field determining that the data structure on the trade item can be derived from the GTIN.

I have always said Flase on all items for this field - I am interested to see if this is the correct value.

[Jimkpa]

I was told to leave it blank (not tru, not false) IF my packaging has the room to print and display the barcode. This is set tru for very small items (medical instruments example) where barcode will not fit.

[CommunityJedi22]

Hello.  Please see details below I pulled from our IM Participant Dictionary: https://community.1worldsync.com/t5/IM-Participant-Dictionary/IM-8-24-v2-Participant-Dictionary-Vali...

IM GUI Item Attribute Set	IM GUI / Load Sheet (FUSE) Name	IM / Load Sheet (FUSE) XML Name	GDSN XML Name	Definition	DataType
Identification	Is Barcode Symbology Derivable?	gs1TradeItemIdentificationKey/isBarcodeSymbologyDerivable	tradeItemDataCarrierAndIdentificationModule/gs1TradeItemIdentificationKey/isBarCodeDerivable	A boolean field determining that the data structure on the trade item can be derived from the GTIN.	boolean

[credcat7]

SO what am I communicating to the trade partner if I provide the value False? Am I Indicating that there a non-UPC symbol on the packaging but that the symbol cannot calculate out to a GTIN value?

[credcat7]

Yes but does that mean in english? 🙂 "Can be derived from the GTIN"  so if you have a GTIN can a barcode be identified?  It just doesn't make sense to me 

[CommunityJedi22]

I agree, I don't always like the technical explanations either.  The way I always understood that attribute is if I look at your GTIN, can I derive your UPC from it, i.e. if I remove the two leading zeroes on the GTIN, is that your UPC?

[credcat7]

Hmm I think no trading partner has ever questioned it so I will leave mine as is.  Based on what your answer is if I were to be exact I would say TRUE on the Each level (since all eaches) start with 00 but the barcode is a UPC A (so a barcode would be made from the 12 digit) but oue displays and other items that start with a 00 it would be false since they are a ITF-14 barcode.  

What Jimka explained makes send that IF you had a QR code or any other code OTHER than a Barcode (barcode sybology) could it be scanned to provide a GTIN (true)

[Scott_Brown]

Hi all, 

I can clear this up for you.

This flag is to tell the recipient's POS system if the bar code it reads can be derived from the GTIN of that product's hierarchy level. For most product this flag does not need to be used. It only be used when the answer is False. 

Here is an example of when this flag needs to be set to False. A six pack of soda where the cans are connected by a ring at the top of the cans. These are set up as inner packs and the can is an each (both can be sold at POS), The barcode visible on the inner pack is actually the bar code on the can which has the GTIN of the each in a UPC barcode. This means that when the POS scanner scans the barcode it does not know if the GTIN being scanned is of the each (1 can) or the inner pack (6 pack). It needs to know this item could be either and to prompt the cashier to input which it is.

In this example, the Is Barcode Derivable flag should be set to False on the Inner Pack. This provides the POS with the information for the cashier prompt.

Hope this helps.

S

[credcat7]

Great example - - and moving forward I think I will not continue to use FALSE as a standard answer on my products